THE FASTEST GROWING ATHLETE | Interview with Andry Strong | Athlete Insider Podcast #63
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everyone said genetic genetic genetics but how do you know you don't know what is on the past like when he was child when he was young you don't know this part you only see this person now and how you can decide it's genetic or non-geneticyou will realize welcome to the athletes and set up podcast by GORNATION my name is phil and today's guest is an impressive statics athlete from ukraine i'm super happy to welcome one of the fastest growing athletes in the calisthenics social media space right now welcome to the show andre strong thank you for invite i also really happy to give interview for you and like a long time i follow you i follow your account instagram i all i know many athletes from guard nation and i'm really happy to give interview for you wow that's super cool uh also maybe a funny side note like or an impressive uh story we uh we wrote like i think it was two years ago on instagram one year even and you said yeah i will be like you you will see in one year i will have like a big account i will have like a lot of followers and i have to say in this moment i i didn't believe like how many followers did you have one year ago one thousand one thousand imagine like one year one year and two months wow and i thought yeah like because a lot of people write to us like they have 200 followers 300 followers and they say yeah i will become world champion one day you should sponsor me right now and it's hard to say like and most of the people they don't make it but you made it big respect for that chapel uh like uh you worked hard and uh yeah maybe that's uh something that we can start with like how did how what was this year like how why did you write this why why did you know one year ago uh just because look i did calisthenics already 10 years i spent for calisthenics from 2012 i started and 2013 2014 i was seeing top athletes in calisthenics like top five top 10 athletes and just like in ukraine everyone know me about me who i am until 2015 i went to work in circus in france and just in this moment everyone forgot about me and i just didn't post nothing in instagram nothing in facebook nothing can they will contact you it's russian social media and just everyone forgot about me and into 2019 i back to ukraine and i started to do workout again and i just waiting waiting for work it was before coronavirus no and they're just waiting to back to contract and this was like for one month two months three months four my months five months six months no work and i just thought okay i have to start your youtube channel instagram channel and i just start to record and post it and already in this moment i was on high level of static for the planche front lever human flag handstand and i know like if i start to post it people would like this and they just start to post it yes for sure like for first few months like nobody care about me no group in instagram because i take always like a calisthenics atlas guard nation impossible moves every group of calisthenics and nobody cares about me but after in one moment just impossible moves posted me and after everybody start to posted me my videos got to really much view like start to 10k 20k 30k and it's start to grow up and i always start try to create something extraordinary not like okay basically you know like plunge push up or plunge variation try to create something new try to create something in your way and people really like this and they start to follow me they start to follow my account my tutorials my videos and like that and this year was really hard for me like in the morning i wake up and spend all day for the instagram tick tock and create video just create video one year non-stop videos oh that's superyeah you said you're now you're uh you're on vacation a little like uh and uh you you travel that's super cool uh you you deserve that i guess like also you know this year i spent for the my content for tick-tock for instagram and i feel it like i stopped to progress in ukraine like it's on the top and i guess to change my location and change my country and just came here in indonesia because i know here it's a beautiful place a beautiful mountain beautiful you know location for create video to create something crazy wow so your main job you nowadays is is a content creator when you when you present yourself to somebody you would say hi i'm andre i'm a content creator or how do you prefer it's online coach okay yeah but i would like in one day the will be only content creator online coaching only with application or with some course but not like one by one because for this moment i have online online session and workout program with feedbackinteresting um yeah let's let's go back a few years uh you said you did calisthenics and then you went to the circus um maybe you can start uh telling us how did you get in touch with the sport how did you discover calisthenics and how did you start okay i started in 2012 in spring i think it was april yes before i did boxing but in the boxing i feel like i want to gain muscle and in the boxing life was impossible to gain muscle i only lose i go to the gym and i spend three months in gym just they do like okay like bench press you know press overhead biceps curl roll pull you know like different and i just gain little bit muscle and power and in spring it's already a good weather outside and with the friends we just went out you know they called me to okay let's andre let's go to sport park you know it's now work out new way you know work out community and we can start and we just go out and there already was one person who did calisthenics for like two years and he already did crazy move like front layer drum flag one arm dragon flag human flag pull up you know different already in top level and just in case i just see how he did front lever and i tried to do front lever and i did like but not straight and did front lever really like in first degrees i did front lever not straight and front clever was really easy for me and already in this time i did 25 pull-ups it was like 50-60 jeeps and around 80 push-ups yeah when i started yeah because like from my child i always do physical work because i bored in village small village and always have to homework you know something do and i had a horizontal bar on yard and i always just tried to do pull up because when i was 10 years old i already did like eight ten pull up yeah and also i had two older brother you know and i see like they do i also try to do and after when i do it front lever and i start to do calisthenics i just try to do like back level front lever muscle up different muscle up dragon flag human flag handstand i tried to do and i was full and i didn't you know and i just stopped to try and this you will shock wait one moment and i didn't try it anymore and this person who already did calisthenics he announced like okay we would like to make competition in it was nine june i think yes it was ninth june and i said oh i would like to try competition and laura i already did one month stream account and okay what i have to do and other person tell me like okay it's have a like a planche different rigs you know back flare where it's have a fingers front levers i okay show me please because i didn't have internet what is the plans and other things and i see what is the plunge and i try to do and i just learn learn to learn and nothing like pre-exercise no two planche nothing several push-ups just right right right and in three weeks i did straddle planche wow yes and i won this competition because i did like straddle planche front lever different types a back lever slowly like horizontal holding leg under bar and slowly to back lever one arm back lever not really straight human flag dragon flag you know differences type and i want this competition i say okay i have to do calisthenics and yeah and what is i say like i didn't try anymore can't stand i able to do full planche but i didn't enhance themyeah in touch i just try okay i have to learn if handstand and i just tried to front from straddle planche press to handstand and like this cellulon fan standso this was all in in in 2012 or in which he was so super quick progression super quick progress progression and already look this was in two months i won my first competition two like two and a half months i won my first competition in three months was ukrainian workout tour and i was going to other city to try to take part of competitions and i got place four i lose and i said to organizator okay i will back in months what happened end up in my region in other region have again competition it was in end of july in end of july and they go to take apart and you know what was problem like they say okay have important things to take part of competition you have to do one arm pull up and it was my big part no and it okay i think i will not take power but i tried to do pull up and this was like this you know not not full and just for this part and they say okay you can try i did a strategy planche on the bar full plan oh sorry no supply front lever on the middle fingers on this fingers one arm back lever i already did three straddle push up on the p bar yes and i did human flex pull up and other different things and i take second place what is point look it's possible it was possible to take first place but they say like you didn't one arm pull up we cannot give you to first place because like it will be not good for the other guy i say okay no problem and after i will take again competition and i won wow what do you think was the the the reason why you progressed so fast was it the reason that you always work physically as a child is it your good genetics what is it like i think it's a point with always physical work from the child like i always do physical work i can i don't know how to explain in english this but like in the village you always have a word you know and also i had to work with my brothers to like hard work with my brothers also and on some place i i don't know how to explain this work like you have to take some weight and you have to put another part you know yeah and always try to do pull up push up and also when i was child my grandfather when i lived with my grandfather he always wake up me at six o'clock and we did push up squad crunches you know and i always do physical work and that point and when i started to do calisthenics i already did 25 pull up like i told you and it's good basic to start just good basic to progression fast because now i know so many person didn't make a basic they start directly just try and try and it's and it's hard progression long way so you would recommend to everyone starting with the basics and first mastering the basics like pull-ups push-ups with the basic to grow the power to feel the power in your body you know and after start to do calisthenic movements even like if you able to do 15 20 pull up it's good but 15 like clean not with the swing not crossfit pull up you know clean pull up 15. and also like push up it's have to be minimum 50 60 push up clean and only then if you are able to do these basics you would start with uh then start with tuck planche and uh like tuck front lever all these like i recommend for my client start with the start to learn to planche when you're able to do 15 pull up 40 deeps and 50 60 push up okay yeah you know you can work with per exercise because if you don't have the basic it's difficult to work you cannot to doing the right technique you will do it in wrong technique and it's lower progressionyeah um did you have any any injuries along the way like um in in your workout career did you have any severe uh like i don't know some injuriesserious nothing really nothing in 10 years nothing serious injury just this year was bad for me not in general like in calisthenics but i had app indeed yeah surgery just in october yes and but nothing serious yes sometimes it's shoulders pain elbows wrists but it's like few days and it's done okay and one moment when i work in circus i jump from the bar and my uh uh how to say this part and kill not uncle uhthis part yeah ankle yeah yes it's twisted and i didn't walk like two weeks but i did calisthenics okay that's the good thing you don't need the ankle for for calisthenics i don't need the legs for the calisthenics yeah super interesting um i would like to hear more about your circus life like uh how how was it like to to work in the circus like uh how did your day look like did you improve as a calisthenics athlete or was it more maintenance yeah when i went to the circus it was 2015 i went with calisthenics team from kharkiv we was four person four boys from kharkiv the french circus invited us to work in circus calisthenics performance and we did calisthenics for performance in service it's first year it was easy because we came to circus when they already worked and you know it was like second months of work and we just came and we did only calisthenics performance and it was easy but first three four months in first three four months i lost five kilos five or six kilos yeah and you know i did work out but change my meal plan because it was first contract and i just saved a money i didn't spend the money for the food they give food for us like three times per day but i did before five times per day and it's like almost half less and i lost five kilos it was you know i came to the circus with really good body and in three four months i went to vacation in and like everyone oh what the [ __ ] like what happened why are you lost i say really because i didn't see this and they sees it and but after okay say okay i have to gain again and i start to eat i start to spend more money like three extra 300 euros per month and again in three three months again in my body weight like normal 72 kmokay yes and first year we done with the circles it was like one three stroke per day in the week one show in weekend saturday and sunday three shows and every one week every two week we change the city this was the most habits you know for the life because when you change the city you wake up early at 4 00 a.m you go to travel to other cities it can be like 100 kilometers and it can be also 600 kilometers you know and it's difficult you cannot eat good you cannot drink good because you travel on the track you know with the drivers and they cannot stop even if you want in restrooms they cannot stop because they go like one by one and if they stop it they can lose their they have to say where they have to go because and oh if you drink after you want to go to restroom and you cannot stay yeah and talk to you guys don't eat not drink nothing do and it can be like a few hours and this moment was push my progression down in this point this really was pushed my profession down and i was almost in the same level all year in same level but only lose musclein one year i work it it's 2015 and to 2016 i back to ukraine finish contract with the team we don't sign again but after they proposed me to back only for me to work in circus for one really amazing performance i didn't know this performance they proposed me and say okay i would like to work but i didn't know what it is it's 12 meters pole it's called swimming pole 12 meters and you climb up to the top and you do the planche handstand human flag and you have to swing without security nothing what and yes and i signed contract i said okay i would like and i go to repetition and first time when i saw this i just like really angrybut i did repeat repetition yes first week it was square really i afraid but after it was easy i enjoyed this work i enjoyed this performance and but in 2017 it's there invite me to repetition in 2016 end of 2016 and 2017 i had to work this performance but in repetition in general repetitions they decided to take out this performance from the show but it's really good they did two performances and also one performance it was on human flank tree of human flag was performance three and half minutes on the human flex variation different variation three and a half minutes i had some picture and videos instagram if you want you can check after and 2017 i did human flight performance and 2018 i did this swimming pool performance they changed to just push to next year this performance and yeah like two years more work and with the friends i stop i just tell some how it was in 2017. it was really hard really like maybe other one can see think it's easy but not because you work almost all show because you work your performance and you have to go in other performance just like intro intro and final between show have to be some repeats you know like for 20 30 seconds and you have to change costume always your clothes i had like five says costume closes and it was really like two hours you spent you cannot just work your performance and go home like in 2015 because we did like performance and we go home but here was really hard really really hard all it was hard in saturday like three show and you cannot go you always stay in circus for three show saturday you stay for three show and also in this year i did some dream montage help to son of boss director we put all stuff on the track you know all this and also in the montage i spent like five or six hours extra and i went sleep through like 1 a.m 2 a.m and wake up 4 5 a.m like 2-3 hours sleep and after you travel to next eat and again you have to take out all stuff put on their place and it was really hard and this also pushed my progression down and in circus it was difficult to progress anyway i did show and after the show i stay in the circus and they did work out and i finished my workout like at one at 2 a.m really because always it's like a night show and this finished like at 11 p.m and after show i did my workout and in the morning two i did two workout birthday and also my job uh yeah i tried to progress but it was really hard it's always like you progress and after it's pushed down you progress after is pushed down but i tried i tried right right and just have to say improve myself line skills everything to how i can do it because when i went to circles my planche was not clean like now you know it was a fit point it was not straight hips it was a little bit up you know it was not really straight but i improved to make perfect line everything perfectso coming out of the circus like finishing the contract and coming back to ukraine like um how did you like you came back to the level like uh to your your to your old level yeah when i back to ukraine in 20 28 and of 2018 and in 2019 i start to work out again and waiting for the new contract and i've been in ukraine like five months and i always try to progress progress progress progress i did a dips with extra weight i did a new variation of planche and progress my go up again it's go up for the new level and after i go to con new contract in chile work in chile this is not calisthenics with a russian swing you know what it is yeah like like a bar with uh on on strings and it's flying through the arena is it there yeah but it's like was double i was uh down man you know who pushed i didn't quite flip i push and also my progress go down because in the first month when we did repetition it was really good i all only repetition and my workout my progress was go up gain muscle more and after one month every day show oh and three show every day every day three show one month and my progress go down okay after i back to ukraine and just in two weeks i go to new contract in cruise ship it's not big cruise ship it was on the sweden and finland from sweden to finland okay first month it was progressed on the same level but there i have really much time to work out it was only two show in evening and i did to to show swimming pool performance on ship it's sometimes it's really crazy because when it's big weyes when it's big wave oh it's push your ship and you're pulled just like that but digital performance never skip never cancel other performance cancel but my performance never yeah i would like to challenge myself really like i can't do or not and i did and i pushed my pro level on next now my professional next level really in this two months i pushed really much and after just coronavirus happened and back to ukraine and i continued to work out and i trained new performance it was aerial straps and human flag act yeah only a solo but in six months i say okay i think normal life will not back like it's coronavirus and i would i don't want to work again in the surface okay let's start my coaching career and calisthenics let's back to calisthenics and start to create videos for instagram to talk and youtube why it's decided to be also online coach because when i in 2013 i came to kharkiv from my small village to big city harkin it's one of the biggest city in ukraine to study in academic physical culture for the coach yeah and like i know all about muscle anatomy all of this and i studied for b college and in 2014 i already worked in some gym for calisthenics you know and i already trained some people but it was not a big experience just few months and i decided to be again coach but like first five six months is there a clientyeah because like nobody know you who will come to you you know and but after when everyone in ukraine my city started to know me yeah i had some client and slowly slowly step by step now i'm here in this level super nice yeah and now i have client from all ward wow super super interesting story like uh big big respect uh like also of course your your calisthenics progression in the beginning that's super impressive how quick you progress with uh with like i think ukrainian people they have a lot of um they they work a lot of physically like they work physically they have the parks like physical culture is much more advanced than it is in other countries yeah it's true here we have really much almost in every yard like on the region you know of the city we have really much sport park it's from small to big one yeah and yeah like you can see like in ukraine we have really much calisthenics satellites in good level yeah true that's uh something that's really impressive and it and it is like if you are already used to the movements as a child and if you do that if you uh do move yourself a lot of times as a child it's it helps a lot i think in the uh later that's true if you work physically because also in ukraine like our family don't get really good money you know for from the work and we start to work already like from 13 14 years old because i start to work from 11 years old because when i was 10 years old my parents separate and we don't have even money for good food you know and i tried to work and it was physical worksuper impressive also the story with your uh with the circus etc so um yeah coming to today um first of all people always ask that how old are you right now 26 26 well and uh how heavy and how tall are you 166 166 but you're quite heavy you said 70 kkg somethingwow that's quite quite heavy no more normal weight my 74. but this year few last few months it's always like this because first it's coronavirus after coronavirus i start to recovery i recover my weight after appendix it and i appended it i lose to 69 kilos and after i get into recovery yes like that and i right now are you the the strongest version of yourself or have you been stronger in the past at one moment yes i was strongest in but wait in different type you know nothing like in plants now i'm stronger like strongest as my variety in basic exercise in august because i train outside yes i did like plus 48 kilo with my girlfriend i did like nine pull up yes and i did 115 jeeps plus 115 kilo dips yeah it was uh but for the planche is the best version now for handstand also front lever was also in august the best but front lever for me for me it's easy to back in the level really i can i can don't try and pull the front lever but i can do like one week and i can do easy again i do front lever pull up in touch 10 times and i didn't train much and hold 35 seconds are you more a pull or push person like genetically or like uh focus what are you stronger i prefer push but i think my genetic in beginning it was for pool but now it's changing for pool so not even your genetics i don't like much fool i prefer push like it's also not genetic it's different really your genetic kids can be for push you and you can change for the pool your genetic can be for pull and you can change for the push it's the same like your genetic can be for fast running but after you change for this microphone you know you your body will adapt of course if you view know your genetic it's for pool and you will all only for a pool it will be better for yourselfand we never know like what is our genetic like oh everyone's a genetic genetic genetic but how do you know you don't know what is on the past like when he was child when he was young you don't know this part you only see who this person now and how you can decide it's genetic or non-genetic and even i cannot decide like it was genetic or it's just because i born in small village because like my brothers they was older but they don't have example like they can see and they can do it and when they try to pull up it was much harder for them yes and was harder to progress but like i see always this and i start to work physical work from a child and it's for me was easier i like if it's genetic my brothers have to be also like champion you know like also how to do easy but for them harder because they start to do all this when they was older than mei understand you said that you also did weighted like weighted dips and weighted pull-ups do you think um the weighted workout has a direct transition to planche and front lever does it help directly well it can help for sure it can help but like in my way i don't spend a lot of time but i can do it and i like this like last time i did on the summer like i was extra right before also before in spring i didn't uh february january i didn't but in 2020 like december october i did with extra weight sometimes it is sometimes no but it's help it can help if you can do dips with really high extra weight like 100 kilo 10 kilo 150 kilo this can help for plunge push up of course cool switching to today uh i'm super interested in how your workout looks like today uh we also received a lot of questions from the community about your 300 handstand push-up challenge but uh i think like this is an exceptional uh challenge so let's talk first about your normal workout like how does your workout look like for the week okay so it's last three months is changing a lot i can say before all my surgery all my thing you know i did two times per day workout in the morning and in the evening in the morning it was like a basic and i learned something new like if i want to learn some new variation of lunch i do it in the morning and if i want to improve like a maltese plunge push up i did it in the morning in the evening it was more this is a basic and they go to sport park and i did work out in sport park with your friends you know and it was like also you do like plush push up different variation combination all of this front lever different variation the combination like that and about basic i don't spend for this moment i don't spend really much time for the basic my basic now is like not now i mean before three months ago like front lever pull up it was basic human flag it was basic handstand push up it was basic straddle punch push chop it was basic this exercises start to be basic for me i didn't normal like push up or pull up i did it also like muscle up or with the extra weight i mean with the girlfriend yeah two times per day and even it was only work out two times per day and also during the day i do i create video and my videos it's also about workout and when i create video i can do like i don't know 20 30 50 double you know times because like i did some plunge or some exercise i can see oh okay here it's not straight line i had to do again and also like i spent one two hours for this and it's also a good workout and it's point for everyone who want to make cleaner record every set record every set and after watch and you can see what is problem in which part you are weak and what you have to change just now when i get got covered after call it i did only one workout per day and six the six times per week it was not same card workout like before covered because it was hard to recover him also was hard for the heart my heart was spanning really like covet was not in hard form no i was like soft but it was hard for heart it's pain and for the brain for the head for legs and they did easily work out one time per day it was only like basic exercise and not hard variation of planche of handstand after it's it appended it happened when i almost recovered and after i predicted one month even no push shot nothing one month i didn't no exercise nothing nothing nothing and when i back i start to work slowly also one time per day andstart to recovery and my level i'm always recovered like in one month it was almost recovered and also start to do hard work out and my workout is looks like i do some different combination in the planche in the handstand if it's at home and also i can do workout with resistance bands for the bite steps or the shoulders or if it's for the multis i can do for the biceps you know also some different exercises and i spend like one and a half two hours like 90 90 minutes 220 minutes and when i did this challenge about 300 constant push-ups and one arm planche i did this work this challenge in the evening and in the morning i did also some workout but it was not hard workout it was only like 60 minutes workout why i tried to do this challenge just to challenge myself because i know like no one did this before three hundred handstand push-ups and first three days was really hard i don't know but it was really hard in second days second day my my head was pain all day from the morning until uh again challenge but i did i decided to do it i did the next day my head again pain it was head prussian and it was like three four days and after was easy really was easy i did handstand and like people can see i start to do faster faster faster and more reps i start with 30 sets of 10 reps and i do it in one hours and already in 20 on 20th day i did 19 sets of 16 reps for 30 minutes yes and what is in day 18 i did 600 handstand push-ups yeah because i was on the train to wait to my family home and i skipped one day and the next day i did 600 and i did in one hour 20 minutes and i did 40 sets or 15 reps yes it was really hard it was my shoulders what was almost dead it was burning like rising but i did and but in day 22 i had to stopwhy if i don't have this travel to vacation if i don't have this i will not stop i will continue but my body was really tired and i got sick little bit like it's in the first day i thought it's coronary virus and i did a test but it's not in second day i did again it's not coronavirus and i decided i have to stop because if i will continue my body will go down you know i will get more stick and i cannot to travel it will be hard to wait for me and maybe on the old abroad you know when it's passport control and when it's a birthday test when it's check your temperature you know and i thought like if i will six they will nothave to say enter you know i will not able to enter even on the airplane and i just decided i have to stop for this moment but i will do it let's start my challenge and i will do it again it will be i will start if tomorrow i will get got negative test again and after tomorrow i will go to the valley i will start do it challenge again on the ballot yeah but it's but it's possible it's possible you can do it and you can get stronger in these days like everyone so many athletes write me you will hurt yourself you will get injure your shoulders it will betoo much pressure in your head but it was only first days after i can do like no it was no problem for me really and i try to make progression and aren't you afraid of over training in general because you train a lot of like even two times a per day is is a higher pressure for the body you know yeah it's hard but my body is ready for this because i did to work out per day like from 2016.so you would say if if your body is used to to the pressure and uh to a lot of workouts i think it's individual okay but sometimes some one can do i know but someone can do it for sure because i did my character workout was to work out per day per day in the morning i did aerial shrubs two hours and in the evening i did calisthenics two hours in aerial straps i spent like all my power i give like really i push full my power and i preparation and in the evening i push also for my power and i progression it's also individual if you can recover you can do it but if you cannot and you feel like your progression is go down no it's too much yeah and everybody has to know for himself so everybody yeah you you hear yourself you have to listen yourself you have to loosen your muscle you have to listen to your brain because for someone it's work for someone it doesn't work even when i work with my clients it cannot be one workout for everyone like some like many athletes sell you know one workout for everyone but this doesn't work everyone is individual for someone it can be this easier for someone it's easiersure yeah and that's like also important when you say like that you worked out like after kovitz like these are all things that everybody has to feel for himself and this is also not medical advice from you that everybody should start working out after kovitz like it is individual and everybody should listen and this is responsible for their own body slowly slowly step by step after corbit because before copying it it's like a water you know it's more liquid and after call it it's slower and it's more like july already but it's not exactly like this but i think you know what i mean yeah and it's dangerous to had a heartbroken you know when you have a trumpthat's why i feel because i had a covet and i did work out and after my heart just pain really much and that's what i recommend for everyone because really a lot of people write me about how i can recover after calling when you got sick after when you are healthy 10 days wait and after 10 days you can start slowly start just with 30 minutes and it's going to be like two sets of like 40 percent of your maximum like working off slowly and between said you have to rest more than beforeyeah so yeah and step by step true cool um let's get to some static advice uh so uh like some advice from you how to learn statics um the best you are known for extreme front lever powers uh planche power so um if somebody asks you and i know your advice should always be individual but maybe you can share a few things that are general that you can say that are generally good to learn statics quicker yes first it's important is technique and start to learn static with good basic if you have good basic you can making right technique start with spray exercise like in every exercise in every movement you can uh have to say set you know in nine step like on the planche i have a nine step progression on planche it's you cannot do two planche but you can do a 15 pull up 40 deeps and 50 push up after three seconds to plunge after is 10 seconds to planche in after it's three seconds frog playing a frog planche beginner you know it's almost like two players but likes straddle after his ten second after it's advancing and once program for acquisition after this it's web launch after advanced web launch and if you know the step you can move step by step and in every step you have different exercises for this step you have different exercises like with different uh how to say power what you need and what i recommend to also a switch like static workout and static dynamic workout i mean it's have to be like in one workout planche lean in second workout it can be like dynamic branching switch or yes it's kind of hard to progress and what i recommend for the planche do work out every second day workout rest workout rest it's going to be like three maximum four times per week okay um people also asked about your explosive power is it uh do you mean explosive also with dynamic uh uh aesthetics or is it something different like your like explosive uh like the strength explosive strength trainingyeah i understand what you mean it's different you can do even hundred pushups you know but you cannot do planche you know and you can do like 20 epsilon but you cannot do plunge it's also important technique you know you can do 50 push up but in really good technique slowly with muscle work and it will be better than 100 push-ups okay so when you say dynamic um like the dynamic work what what do you mean in specific and i mean push it up like sell the push up do it punch push up a push up with capital protraction scapula push up shoulders push up dynamic planche limb this bike push up with perfect technique and slow and controlled yes try to do this perfect technique yeah some exercise you can do with bad technique but it have to be also with control also you have to feel the muscle what is work for sure like even with i am if i learn something new in beginning it's not perfect technique but i try to do imperfect technique and what also advice if you not able to do like a third step don't move to next step first to learn really good like if you cannot do three seconds two plunge don't make like straddle planche or weight plunge if you cannot do ten seconds to plunge don't go to to web launch so you recommend a recommend to the people to not work or start like you did with trying trying trying the straddle planche but to go a different way a smarter way yeah smart step by step it's always better it's the same look it's the same like bench press you cannot come and do x directly hundred kilo bench press and if you just imagine it's like example but you want to do hundred kilo bench press and you don't know how to do and you just try and you do like 600 you know you know or you just scroll but you will not able to do it's better to start with 70 kilo 75 80 kilo 85 90 kilo 90 front and after you do 100 kilo you always to make progression it's the same in the flange it's the same like if you take a 100 kilo to do pull up you cannot do 100 kilo pull up no yeah true um yeah you have extreme shoulder strength and you also said that you transformed yourself from a from a pool person uh pull genetics to to more like extreme push strength um maybe some some advice like what is your impr uh like favorite exercise for for shoulder strength a lot of people asked about uh your favorite exercise before my favorite exercise was handstand push up now straddle the plunge push up i like in 2014 yes in 2014 every day i did wall handstand push up it was like 30 hands the wolfenstein push-ups 35 volcan push-ups and they did really much wolfenstein push-ups and after i did normal handstand push-ups but now i really like to do straddle plunge push-up like my favorite exercise for this moment cool um do you use something but for people who cannot do handstand and for people who cannot do strata plans the best exercise it can be server push up or regular push ups but with control even except the push up you cannot to lose couple of protraction you know you cannot to do retraction because it does your muscle doesn't work in opposition it's going to be couple of retroaction the chest have to also flex shoulders all muscles have to flanks okayum no i forgot the question the next one but uh what was the the what was the most difficult uh skill for you to learn like along the way do you like uh um do you remember one fso it's i hate this skill really uh yes because when i tried to do her faster my chest and my shoulders it's just like pressure yeah yeseven now when i drew her fast i have to warm up like 20 30 minutes for her faster really because my shoulders it's not really good flexible in this way and chest and when i push pull oh my god here it's like want to broad yeah and pretty fast but when i have less muscle faster was easy because you get also more more flexible or why why is that yes yes okay what is your opinion in general about uh warm-up and stretching regular warm up it's ten minutes it's like a neck shoulders and special warm-up it depends which skill you want to train in workout for this you have to spend also like 10 15 minutes for her fest all i spent more because it's my weak point if your weak point is like in multitask you have to warm up your shoulders your elbows you know and in different skills it have to be also like 10 minutes 15 minutes 20 minutesokay and for blanche my warm-up it's like push-up after his two punch press uh lcd pressed to handstand uh two plunge push up two planche open to strada planche straddle planche straddle push up like every next workout is harder harder and harder harder the warm-up is something really specific on the level of the person right so for you as a really advanced athlete like i don't know straddle punch is something that you can do in one way i start with a normal warm up like uh to circle my shoulders you know but after when i did this i did also specific warm up okay if you didn't it's really easy to enjoy yourself really easy you can broke yourself i mean broke the muscle it's important to prepare your muscles before work to stretch your muscles a little bit you know because if it's cold it's really easy to baroque it's the same like if you take a band and put outside on the cold and after check you know it cannot to pull the same but if you put in the code you can put pull more same with the musclestrue maybe some mindset advice like um what do you do when you lose motivation what uh what do you think uh in uh when you're like super unmotivated to go into workout how do you change your mindset look if you will work out only when you have motivation you cannot go on top level that's really true because you get motivation but it's like for can be for one week for two weeks for three weeks for one month for two months but it's really important discipline if you know your goal you have to push yourself and his discipline of course i also you know i want to be lazy sometimes i want to just lie on the bed and it's all i don't want to work out or i don't want to record the video but i know for what i do and i know what is my goal and if you scare too big a big goal you have to like reach like a small goal like step by step also like okay now for this man's my goal is to do two plunge and you go to this goal same like i work with my client you know like i have okay now we have to do two planche okay let's do it in this few weeks you know our goal after we make a new goal also like with the older person like who is 40 plus years old we okay let's do it 40 push-ups in three weeks we make this goal after okay in first january we have to make 50 push-ups we did this goal okay in first february we have to do 70 push-ups you know and just small goal and step-by-step it's easier because if you make okay i have to do 200 push-ups no like okay it's too hard for me how i can do it if i able to do 130 push-ups it's really hard it's the same like okay i want to do my test in six months but i cannot do even two plunge it's we will demotivate you small step small goal to be goal if you want to be on the top small goal to be goal is the same like use the money you cannot like okay in one year i want to have a billiard dollar no first just like okay in months i would like to have salary like 3 000 after okay in end of this year i would like to have five thousand okay you will reach this goal after okay in this year i would like to have twenty thousand and like small step by step yeah that's also a recommend for workout because if you will work on your motivation no you will lose you will lose and you will say okay i'll give up because i don't have motivation no you have to discipline and go if you don't have goal and you don't know for what you do this workout you will stop it you will not be on the topthanks for sharing well like why i uh always like one year last one year i spent every day i recorded video i do work out and it was not motivation you know it was a goal to be the best of the best to be on the top to grow my instagram to people know about me who i am to show who i am and what i can do ityeah just well nice now i have new goals what's the goal now firstokay one goal i will not tell you because it's about me and girlfriend okay and i want to deserve 1 million subscribers in instagram like in cali from calisthenics it's not only who deserve chris harrier frank medranowho more vasquezand i think it's like few personally in bodybuilding yes it's many people who have one plus but in palestine it's not much true most calisthenics like la rosa it's 500 plus simon's ranch it's 6 k plus yesi don't know why in calisthenics like it's not much like in bodybuilder yeah but i have to i want to that's nice yeah cool good luck for that already but i think you're on a good way thank you uh let's talk about nutrition uh can you share something about your diet how do you eat how important is nutrition for you yeah because i can't tell you directly from the my breakfast until my dinner last dinner always i have a breakfast like eight a.m and it's omelette four eggs and only one or two yellow these vegetables and oatmeal with fruits it's gracesand nuts you know some fruits okay after lunch i have a like rice and with chicken or turkey and vegetable other two meal i have the same like even in dinner like second lunch dinner and last dinner before i had a cheese but it's not like normal cheeses i don't know if in europe you have this cheese or not yeah cottage cheese it's called yeah i we we also eat it all the time it's like it's like only one or two percent of fat but high protein yes i eat this in last meal but like half months a half year ago i take out from my meal plan and last meal i prefer to eat also i i know european don't eat this only russian and ukrainian isyeah uh i only know the german word now um yeah we will we will put it somewhere in the video yeah yeah this and in the evening i prefer fish it can be white fish or some redfish but redfish it's not like always white fish yes for evening it's the best because it's neat only like 60 90 minutes toer in your stomach you know to be processed yeah yes to be processed in your stomach because if you eat chicken it's little bit longer if you eat pork it's much longer if you it beef it's like three four hours for the day i eat like 150 gram protein 250 300 carbs and 75 80 gram fatokay so it's it's not a lot of fat like it's it's but don't need more yeah for men for the men you need just one gram or 0.8 gram per kilogram for girl yeah you need more like 1.5 okay okay interesting and it's not it's have to be like a good fat you know from like from avocado olive oil nuts it cannot be from the meat or from the butter yeah and are you in general somebody who is like is it easier for you to gain weight or to lose weight it's what i eat like in general like for you and with your genetics is it easier for you to gain weight lose i can lose like this really it's so much difficult to gain muscle to gain kill my girlfriend know i always like eat it and after like few it's little bit less food i lose like this really fast really really fast like i told you even i went to the circus i lose five kilo muscle like that yeah yeah i feel you even even on the now you know on my level of weight like 73 74 it's difficult to be on this level always yeah it's easy to go down but also for me it's difficult my my maximum was 76.5but it was not clean not good form so your performance is my best weight it's 74 75 okay cool so as a kid you were also like a skinny uh kid like uh really yes even when i started calisthenics i was 50 kilo 52 kilo yes i was always skinny i was skinniest boy in the school on the class close to other boy how to say fight with me kick my ass and that's why i go to boxing because i was really and small and skinny yeah for calisthenics it's perfect but in in real life as a kid especially it can be difficult yes that's true for calisthenics like you can see like top outlets it's like 60 kilo even my weight it's too much for my high yeah i was impressed because 774 kilos is a lot but i would like to get a little bit more wow yeah i can see like i want to grow more and i want to grow my biceps also like 40 44 centimeters oh nice uh do you take supplements like what is your opinion on protein powder creatine before look before 25 years old before 25 i always think okay i did without supplements without nutrition after i understand like i need to get nutrition to get supplements because like my body cannot work only on open gas like you know only on natural food it's really start to be difficult but when you're young you can work without supplements really now i got only omega-3 multivitamin complex vitamin c plus zinc vitamin d and also in before covet i got protein powder and now i would like to buy also again because uh for the stomach it's difficult to eat only from take protein only from the food because you have to eat really much meat yeah and you're not good what you're not such a big fan of of meat as like with beef and pork like at least in the evening right no no i don't eat this now i don't have in my meal pork and beef at all no and even in the last few months i take out a chicken only turkeywhen don't have turkey in the shop yes we take chicken white turkey turkey's most cleanest meat yeah even like chicken if you like on the fabric if they put anabolic or steroids you know like for the chicken they can live with this but for the turkey it's impossible they will die like it's most cleanest meat well i didn't know that yeah like for everyone if but it's more expensive like chicken in europe i think it's like eight six euro eight euro yes per kilo i think so i i don't i think it's around 12. okay because here it's look here price for the chicken in ukraine uh in europe or in usd say a new issue in europe okay in europe it's four euro one kilo of fillet of chicken turkey it's six euro it's like half price moreyeah but if it's clean if it's good for your health it's a it's a long it's a good investment yes for sure for sure cool but if it's really hard for your stomach and pork but pork also it's not the clean meat about supplements like so much people say okay how to take protein powder look most important and what i would recommend for everyone it's just multivitamin complex omega vitamin c plus zinc and in the winters vitamin d and if you have a like hard workout also i would recommend for your join like a hundred protector smm and some uh you know for your join mm-hmm okay but like people say oh i need to protein powder like if you don't see for a reason for what you have or create in even basic you know if you don't have hard work out basically you don't need it look i recovery without basicallyyes it's possible it is possible the the human body is this is uh is able of everything yes nearly cool because now like when all boys already from 14 years old 15 years old they start to say oh i have to take supplements creatine protein but all of this you know but i i did without this before 25 years oldnice cool then uh yeah we're slowly coming to an end of the interview um one question what will be the next move that you will unlock what will be the next skill that we can see from you is it secret now i will unlock my one arm planche look what is fine with our one arm planche it's also like in 2014 i able to do one arm planche but after when i went to circles i didn't because i don't see a reason for what and last year i start to work out again again you know like i want to improve i want to do it when i'm pledged but i got some problem with my lower back and i didn't i stopped it and now i'm close to one unpledged now i feel more and more and more and more i feel like i can do it in few weeks but after i want to do full plunge push up like to clean and would like to make some record i don't know exactly how now what is record because like don't have really clean push up and record if people want to make crackers they do like you know impressed like just do ityeah do you train the one arm planche on on both arms or uh do you like on both sides but left one is yeah it's it's even environment one arm i can do like already for one two seconds three seconds but left no is it 50 strength or 70 or how much i think it like sticks to less yeah really look when you do a normal full planche you don't feel this but when you do one arm yes you feel it much even on one arm front lever on right arm i can hold it like for a few seconds but left nobut i why i want to train both arms if you train only one arm after you have problem with your spine it is going to be like that really and this also i recommend for every athlete please don't make exercise only for one one side because after you will have problem with your spine really or if you do for one arm you have to do stretching a lotstretching stretching and stretching because after you really had a problem because i had this problem and when i after i just do a stretching every day one hourwhen i did the aerial straps work out there only for right arm you know all like a swing and different tricks only for one arm and after my spine like just like that you know but that's fine yeah yes that's good advice cool um yeah quick questions quick answers at the end of every interview what's your favorite food what is my favorite fooduh what is it yeah that's what i show it ah okay okay i can translate in english i always translate and always forget like my my typical what is it buckwheat backbeat okay yeah in france it's called sarazan ah yeah i i know that from from france yes in in germany i don't know it's maybe can be like somethingyeah it's it's that no i think it's buchweisen but i i don't know like yeah yeah and also what i really like yeah oatmeal with the fruits i really like to even you know like here in current in order we cannot order food but we have oatmeal and i just say girlfriend okay please make oatmeal even without nothing you know but it can be good true and that's it gives power yeah uh are you more a dog or a cat personno dog i have a dog but when i was a child a cat always we have cat at home and always cats sleep with me just on my feet and now we have dog small dog pomeranian schpitz and its name arnold niceit's small but arnold but now it's not with us because on bali it's impossible to bring a dog yeah i can imagine uh yeah what athletes inspire you in your workouts no yeah well now it's difficult to saybecause now i don't watch my much athletes before i watch always victor kaminov eric orgiessimone strange simon strange these three atlas really like and about ellie ortiz i always watch it and thought like he has most perfect planche and skill on the planche victor carmen of amazing maltese simon strange it's amazing all movements now like now i don't have like you know to watch and inspire like oh amazing because now i don't have this time to watch you in videosnice but even like now i respect the this athlete and i think they are really good in this good level and also like i respect also eric barcy he has a good plan like straight plunge i like his style this style what he dodo you have a favorite movie yes marvelnice yes marvel and when i was child um jackie chan adventures it was you know it you know this yeah yeah jackie chan adventures and now marvel i really like new video new movies and i'm first who are incool uh what's your favorite music genrei don't care you don't listen to musicfor the music even on the workouts i don't put the music you know like but what i really like to listen it can be just pop music you know i can't put that on the background like pop music some pop music is just okay and be and what i really like to listen it's gonna be like some epic music or even symphony really andwhat was my the best movie before now yeah like marvel i really like to watch but most movie what i watched it it's lord of ringslike in the producer version you know not shorts even just in the last three weeks ago or two weeks ago i watched it again and it was my i don't know how many times i watch itcool nice about me really like i don't have a favorite singer or like i can listen everything and even i if don't don't have music on the workout i don't listen sometimes if it's hard music i hear on the sport park i asked to turn off because you cannot concentrate on the workout maybe when you do the dynamic style like freestyle i mean some to three sixty some twist turn you know maybe it's inspiring you but when you do static movement and i think it's up to the same disturbing make your brain not concentrate how to do you will not concentrate on your muscle world yeahexactly so we will see andrei without music in the park uh just doing the static moves with full concentration yes really you at home also i i can put some movie maybe you know like behind just yeah but not music interesting it's harder things when i have to say when i make edit for the videos it's hardest thing to find the music like i don't listen much and it's really really hard interesting for me a movie is the most distracting thing ever i could never train uh watching like even i see a lot of people watching uh like uh motivational videos or like uh dragon ball z or something i could never train on that uh like i have to be full focus like with music but this is how everybody is different yes but because when it's hard music really i don't know how people concentrate even in 20 minutes your brain will just show up you know like ahyeah cool uh what's your message to the calisthenics community what's something that you want to tell the listeners oh one things it's really important already write wrote about this and say in talk my videos please if you take part in competitions make clean move if you re posted the video please make a move clean move make a clean plunge make a straight line make in the right form because now a lot of outlets just did and doesn't matter what form just did hips up legs down fit not straight to like some balanced i don't know different but please it can be really nice if you're making right form in straight line every straight line handstand straight plunged straight front lever straight push up slowly regular with fixation pull up with fixation all if you're making right farm it can be really nice even for not only for calisthenics community it can be really nice for the people they can watch all it's really nice like oh how calisthenics is do like when you watch gymnastics you say oh it's a professional it's a master you know but when you're watching calisthenics you say oh okay it's a street style even i know many people i already told for them okay you can do it in the competition make a straight line try to lift up your feet more to make straight line make your feet point straight but they say me like oh it's calisthenics it can be you know it's street style i say okay make yeah just it's a yeah if calisthenics community will try to do good form clearing form it can be really nice people can see oh calisthenics is grow kalistani sits on the next level like it's already not just like structuralized style it's already professional style it looks like a professional and how do beginners post their progress don't you think it's important that also beginners can share yeah this is my my pledge my current launch form and then it's not perfect yet yeah they can share like even not perfect form you know it's a way to progression but when you able to do straight but you need to spend a little bit more time it's important because people don't like to spend more time they don't want to spend more energy to do you know because when you do the right form you need to spend more energy that's true when you do straight line but when you are beginners of course you will not able to do in the right but when you do the pull up push up you can do right when you do when you do the dips you can do right you know it's only like some small things can be right like feet straight to your knees not bending their legs you knowget you yeah because when i see the competition even here in ukraine and people take a part in competition and making not the right form and just like why you can't do it just spend more timei fully understand what you mean like i'm i'm a big fan of uh people sharing their progress and like um i i i don't like people hating on the on the forum uh because i think like calisthenics is is it's important that everybody can also is not afraid i'm not taking you know of the form i'm not hating the form i just like say like you just think about to improve to write form to straight line to all of this like people who send me videos you know okay you can check this videos what do you think and i can say like okay here it's really good but you can to try to lift your feet a little bit more up you know fix your abs apps flex your apps fix core muscle you know i give advice i don't say oh it's [ __ ] okay like yeah i know and that's important like if people ask i give advice because really much people but sometimes like if you just ask me okay i want to training my apps you know like send me uh exercise but really like i don't have that much time to send for everyone exercise for the apps and you took him really much yeah and that's cool like that's really important that you give constructive feedback that you tell people how they can um progress and how they can advance and that's also something where um i see like coaching really uh really like uh that brings a lot of value maybe you want to tell us a little bit more how does your coaching work like how how is it how is it going now i have a two option it's workout program with feedback how does this work i people i send checklists people write with some cat you know about level about profession about goal about all of this he sent me i check all of this goal i write step by step to this goal like i told you no took planche frog plans to know all of this for every move what he want to learn step by step after riot program for one week i send this program for one week with exercise with the link to exercise for the planche if it's if they want to learn after people record videos from one set of every exercise they send me i check the videos and they give feedback what you have to correct here okay make his couple of protection more here you have to hold your arms straight here try to flex your abs here okay here you have to move your feet a little bit more up and all of this point like i check and to give it back and next workout people try to do better for and like this it's work you know they see what they have to improve and they will work step by step and always like is if i see it's not wrong technique i say what he has to do and next workout if you try to do in right technique and progression it's faster like this work workout program this feedback and second one it's online coaching i work one by one in online session it's zoom or in telegram yes and like the same checklist go where he want to move after i write the programs and just like this i show exercise he do it if he do the wrong i show again what he have to do in which point he have to concentrate what he have to feel you know like okay like people sometimes don't understand okay here i have to move my back to up but i don't know how it and i just try to explain okay just imagine like somebody take your back and want to pull to your handstand you know like you will have to imagine always if you don't imagine if you don't know what you have to feel it's difficult to progress even when you do dynamic planche lean sometimes people do dynamic planche length just do like move forward back forward but when you move forward you have to feel like you want to go to planche to stride the planche you have to feel like you want to press to start a planche if you don't feel you just do it progression it will be slower it's really important in calisthenic neuromuscular junction it's really important true nice and also now i create new things because because now i have really much people who would like to train with me but i don't have much time like and now i create application for first it will be only a plunge workout with nine step it's nine step people will decide it from which step they have to start and in every week every two weeks they have a test if they're able to do they can move to next step no and every step is more and more progression and it's not like okay here first workout and everyone start from this workout no people will see okay here's a step i able to do this all point like i can do three seconds to punch oh no i can do more okay 10 seconds to plunge i can do more okay this position i can i cannot do but i can do two clashes okay i decided to to plunge you know and like this people can decide which level they have to start and it will be in i hope in few weeks one weeks videos it's already done all videos it's 100 plus per exercise yeah for a plunge really like different level step by step people can really feel they can really feel which muscle is work and they can progression slowly step by step and nowis unworking and soon i will announce this and people can do work out of from my opinion from my how to say experience yes from my experience nice because i can see like people really like it what i posted about tutorial about plunge technique about plunge forms i really like because save it a lot like last video 35 000 save it yeah it's a lot for like 35 000 interesting in planche technique like plunge tutorial got 1 million for a hundred thousand views plunge tutorial and 75 000 save it wow that's nice yes thanks respect for that thank you thank you cool how can people get in touch with you uh how can they know more about the the coaching they can send me a direct message in instagram but now it's difficult to see all message just instagram i have my mail work we just you can send me a mail like who you are and what you prefer what you want to know and you can touch with me always i answer for everyone sometimes instagram just hide some message you know because and i can't see sometimes it's happened i'm sorry for this if someone i've for someone i didn't answer but i prefer to answer for everyone who write me doesn't matter it's a topic or if it's beginner super cool thank you uh we're at the end of the interview um before you can say goodbye to everyone andrei i want to say thank you to you for your time to spend some time of your quality with us and answering some some questions about your training about your story about your nutrition about your favorite food and your cat and yeah everything so a big thank you for that uh thank you also to everyone listening to this till the end it's been a super long interview with an hour 40 and i'm super happy and grateful for everyone listening to this till the end and yeah you can say goodbye to everyone andrey uh thanks to everyone if you liked the episode give it a thumbs up it helps a lot and yeah you can end the episode first i want to say thank you you i'm impressed to you invite me to interview because like it's important for me like a big company big like community see me and invite to touch with them and thank you for everyone who follow me who really like my content i will try to give more advice in my content i will try to give more motivation i will try to give everything what i want and soon i will also posted long video on youtubes about tutorials about workout and people can watch also on youtube like long video about what might work out and thank you everyone i just want to wish you to never give up and think about discipline sometimes you will want to give up but just take two side if you will give up what is better if if you never give up and if you not give up if you will continue where you go if you will continue and where you go if you will go up i think here is better way and here is the most plus more plus and just never give up and go to your goal and you will deserve everyone can do it everyone can do it but someone lose just no discipline and give up and someone who don't give up they go to top and you can you can too you can go to top yes and if someone will tell you you will not you will just don't listen it's all like for me like for my own example people say you will not deserve followers without dynamic without freestyle in instagram voila static movement435k followers instagram 600k in tiktok static movement yes it's possible it's possible i wish you same things everything is possible just do it and never give up so thank you for your time i still think it was longer interviewing your channel thank you for spend this time and good luck to you all the best enjoy enjoy bye and i will try to surprise you one more time thanks yeah.